Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:40:24 +0500 To: karlerik@telepost.no From: xyx Subject: DEEP BENEATH THE WAVES vol 9 I've been stocking up the oxygen supply readying for a plunge I'm not sure I should take. The tanks are ready, so why my timidity? I'll tell you why - the likes of Craig and Ben and Andrew and RSweener are probably going to be waiting with their harpoons when I surface. But the Graham Parker song "Fear Not" is ringing in my ears, so heeeeeeerrrrrrrre goooeeeeeesssssss..... (The intent of this review is to help you make an informed decision as to wheteher or not you should spring for this set). "BOB DYLAN 1965 REVISITED" 14 CD BOX (Great Dane Records) The fact that I got this free will not cloud my judgment. Disk by disk, I will gauge the relative merit of each, along the way ID'ing where else the material can be found, quality comparison, etc. Some disks will be given short notice, others long notice, as warrants. (KEY BS=Bootleg Series, BIO = Biograph). DISK ONE: "Bringin' It..." outtakes Jan 1965 - 12 tracks including 4 found on "BS" or "BIO" (I'll Keep it With Mine/Farewell Angelina/SubBlues/If You Gotta Go), plus Baby Blue/You Don't have to Do That/She Belongs/Love -0/ I'll Keep it With Mine instrumental found on "Thin Wild Mercury Music" and/or "Lonesome Sparrow Sings" plus additional 3 takes of If You Gotta Go. Quality is excellent throughout, comparing favorably to other releases, except the official ones, of course. Les Crane Show, Feb 17, NYC - interview plus Baby Blue & Its Alright Ma w/Bruce Langhorne on 2nd guitar for both songs- great performances and to my knowledge unavailable elsewhere. Fine quality sound on performances and interview. DISK TWO: Live Santa Monica, CA 3/27/65 - 13 tracks already released on the Tuff Bites CD "Songs That Made Him Famous" (although that disk had 5 extra bonus trax), quality here is the same, IMO, they probably copied it for this release. Sound quality is listenable but annoying - personally, it is not the kind of disk that will be played repeatedly. I know the historians will say any Dylan 1965 show on tape is important, but it is the standard show/ set list he did in 1965, and personally I find the Manchester Trade Hall much better. DISK THREE: 6 tracks Sheffield, UK 4/30: Times/Ramona/Gates/Gotta Go/Alright Ma/Love -0 Lame quality, distant, historical significance be damned. You won't play it that much, take my word for it. The rest of the disk contains interviews/press conferences from the 1965 tour April 26 - May 9 in excellent quality, some from "Don't Look Back" and, I believe, contains the complete live and backstage performances found in "Don't Look Back," all in excellent quality. This stuff is perhaps the highlight: Dylan backstage doing Lost HiWay/I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry/Baby Blue to Donovan, plus the concert performances and the great 6 song medley nicely pieced together here by Great Dane. Great to have it all in one place and in such good quality. Less the first 6 tracks, this disk will spin repeatedly. DISK FOUR: Manchester Free Trade Hall, May 7 : Absolutely essential show, 15 track concert (broadcast, was'nt it) previously available on Swingin'Pig "Now Ain't the Time" and cleaned-up Wanted Man release "Now is The Time For Your Tears." To my ears, quality is more natural sounding than on the Pig release, this disk is more akin to the sound on the Wanted Man, so much so that I'd say it is a clone. Nevertheless, if you don't get this box, do grab one of the 2 disks mentioned above. The definitive '65 acoustic Dylan, best quality available. DISK FIVE: Royal Albert Hall, May 9 : Same exact set list as above show, 15 tracks, but in barely listenable quality. More a curiosity piece, will probably not spin very often in your player due to the sound. Previously not available on disk, probably why it was included here. DISK SIX: BBC TV, London, June 1 : great performance previously available on Scorpio release "The Circus is in Town." I compared these for awhile trying to figure out which sounded better and could not really reach a definitive conclusion. The sound on here has a bit more hiss but appears more natural, while the "Circus" one is cleaner but perhaps a bit more tinny. If you ask 10 people, would probably be a 5-5 tie. Anyway, you need to have one or the other, if not a tape at least. Set list worth mentionong: HBrown/TMan/Gates/Go Now/Hattie/It Aint Me/Love -0/One Too Many/Boots/Ma/She Belongs/Baby Blue. DISK SEVEN: "HIGHWAY 61" outtakes - the harpoons are waiting for me, I know. Here's what you get here: Mono, stereo, acetate versions of the following: Barbed Wire Fence - 3, It Takes A Lot to laugh - 4, LARS - 2 (including the piano waltz warm-up found on "BS"), Crawl Out Your Window - 2, From A Buick Six - 3, Positively - mono, Tombstone - mono. A few of the acetate versions sound the same as the mono and/or stereo mixes, so you are getting the same take from a different source. Quality is excellent throughout, many of these versions are found on the Scorpio releases "Highway 61 Revisited Again" and "Highway 61/Blonde on Blonde Mono Mixes." Sound quality on the box set appears to be from tape sources, whereas the 2 Scorpio releases are from acetates and vinyl LP's. A worthwhile disk, though I find it hard listening to 4 takes of a song in succession (hey, idiot, that's what the programming button is for on your CD player). DISK EIGHT: "HIGHWAY 61" outtakes - Mono mixes of the following tracks: Desolation Row ("boiled guts of birds" version)/Queen Jane/HWY61/Thin Man/ Tom Thumb. Again, excellent quality mono mixes previously found on the Scorpio release above. Quality here is excellent and it is up to the listener to decide whether the preference is with the mono or stereo version of these songs, though DRow is markedly different in this incarnation and has to be heard. This will receive some spinning in my player, though more often than not I'll spin the official gold disk CD. Also here: Nice sounding 7/24 Newport workshop performance of "All I Really want to Do" plus the famous/infamous "gone electric" Newport tracks, so exhaustively reviewed I won't bother to comment other than to say that if you have'nt heard them it's your loss, and the quality here is up to snuff and on par with the previous Newport releases, which is to say very, very, good (I can't hear booing, either). DISK NINE: Forest Hills, NY 8/28 Pt 1 13 tracks : I call this the curiosity piece of this set, much like the Elephant Man's bones. Cool to check out once or twice, but beyond that not very fulfilling. Quality is dire, though I hesitate to say unlistenable. Murray the K is treated badly in the intro and your curiosity is piqued, "How will they treat Dylan." The recording suffers from some distortion when the crowd is loud, which is often, so it is hard to determine what kind of reaction Dylan is receiving. Certainly not outright booing, I'd say a bit of booing is in evidence, though. The sound is really bad and hard to enjoy, especially repeated listenings, so let's put it in the "historical significance only" category. My opinion, of course. DISK TEN: Forest Hills Part 2 (4 tracks) see above . Plus "Blonde on Blonde" outtakes in excellent quality: Crawl Out Your Window#3&4 - 2 mono & 1 stereo mix, I Wanna be Your Lover - 2 mono mixes, Jet Pilot - stereo mix sounds to me like the one on "BIO", "Medicine Sunday" (working title) - mono mix, Number One inst - mono mix, Freeze Out - acetate. The last 3 can be found on "Thin Wild Mercury Music" or "Lonesone Sparrow." Quality is excellent on all these, same quality to these ears as what is previously been available.(I'll leave it up to the harpoonists to determine which of these tracks/takes has been available/unavailable before on CD, and which CDs they are available on. You need hours, which I don't have, to do the comparisons. One of these days, maybe...). All in all, disk ten is a winner. DISKS ELEVEN & TWELVE: INTERVIEWS: 10/24 Allen Stone in Detroit, Nat Hentoff (Unpublished) Playboy Interview, NYC October or November. Excellent quality interviews, revealing, playful, fun to listen to, no doubt. My contention: As cool as these are, how often are you gonna play 'em? I think they should have transcribed them and put them in the booklet, thereby eliminating 2 disks and making it more affordable. A good listen, ONCE, but better to have it in print to refer back to for specific quotes. DISKS THIRTEEN & FOURTEEN: San Francisco Press Conference Dec. 3 - hilarious, vintage BD. Play it for your friends!! Plus Parts 1&2 of the classic tape from the Berkeley Community Theater December 4 - not great quality but oh so listenable. To my ears the same quality as found on the original Wanted Man release of this show "Long Distance Operator," and no need to review the show itself beyond "thin wild mercury loud and live," you catch my drift? Set list: Tombstone/Believe You/Baby Let Me Follow/TomThumb/Long Distance Operator (yessss!)/It Ain't Me babe/Thin Man/4th Street (whewww)/ Rolling Stone. Last Thoughts on This Show: the Band cook up a sizzling brew, white hot flame on top of BDs scorching vocals. And another press conference, this one from LA Dec 17. The press conferences serve as nice bookends to the show. So, is it worth it you ask? Put it this way - if you have the following material on any of the other CDs mentioned above: Blonde on Blonde, Bringin' It & HWY 61 outtakes Manchester Free Trade '65 show Berkeley '65 show BBC Broadcast June '65 London Then it probably is not worth spending $250+ for this set. Granted, there are a few takes of some outtakes which appear to appear (cute) here for the first time, but the "first-time on CD" release of Forest Hills, RAH '65, Newcastle '65 does not warrant the investment when you consider the quality. The "Don't Look Back" CD is great, and I'd be willing to bet it comes out as a single CD cloned from this box. The interviews are cool also but can be just as enjoyable on tape, after all it's not like you can program it like a song, once into it you are in for the duration of the interview unless you sit there and fast forward - yeah, sure you will. Better to find someone to tape the press conferences, interviews and poor quality live material than shell out for the box. On the other hand, if you have nothing and want to get started, this would not be a bad place. But I think I can safely say that if you are on rmd that you are not in this particular boat. My recommendation is to consider what you already have, consider the "new" material on this box, consider how essential it is to have this new material on CD, and determine for yourself what you need or can afford. Don't forget - approx 4 or 5 discs worth of material here are interviews or press conferences. Another factor in your decision might be whether or not you can get this material on tape from someone. I hope to sit down soon armed with a six pack, the outtake disks in this box, the other outtake CDs and Krosgaard and determine what studio material is appearing on this box for the first time. Or Craig, perhaps you've done it already - if so, give it up, mate. Lastly, I'd be remiss if I did'nt mention the fine packaging job on the set. Each disk individually packaged in its own jewel case, some double slim lines. Large format 12x12 booklet with source information (how accurate it is I've yet to check) and nice photographs, all previously published. A fine overall job, yet I really believe a 10CD box with the interviews transcribed would have been better, not to mention more affordable. My air is running out and a swarm of sharks is fast approaching. Can't decide what is a worse fate, the sharks or a group of saavy Dylanologists. No simple twist among those choices. Before I surface, coming attractions for next week include Oslo 1995 ("Salt for Salt"), the "Dignity" compilation and the terrific 3CD soundboard from Shoreline, Mountain View, CA 1986. This one has me puzzled as I think it's excellent, yet another review I read was negative about the quality. Strange things have happend...... Love & Mercy & A merry weekend To All - xyx "You can have the truth but you got to choose it" - Dylan '76